Grown Up Stuff & Ampersand Daily: The Final Solution

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The Final Solution

Host of the show Grown Up Stuff has invited me on to be a guest on Wednesday February 13th at 9:00 PM. We will be discussing many topics I am sure but just to give you an idea of the discussion, please read a bit from Notus’ and myself’s Facebook discussion.


Me: “you want to talk about anything in particular?”

Notus: “No problem Scott! Actually yes, if you wanna think how to answer that’s cool. Pretend I’m a 10 year old child asking you this, what is agorism and what would daily life look like in a anarchist society, what major differences? and lastly back to adult me, When do you think the house of cards falls? or when does the economy implode?? get what im sayin?? and i guess who loses out most when the economy hits the fan?”


First of all Notus, thank you for inviting me on to your show. I have my calendar filled for Wednesday February 13th at 9:00 PM and very much look forward to talking to you and Swamp. Let the good times roll!

To a 10 year old I would have to say that agorism is knowing when it is neccesary to break the rules and then breaking them. A 10 year old may ask, “but rules are good right?” To which my reply would be, “Yes, but some are made to be broken if not improved upon.” This would open up a whole plethora of other very important issues to a child of 10. In contrast, I would tell an adult that it’s living as if there is no authority over you. I think most adults would brag that they do life this way, but most also will support the government on most issues.


A completely anarchist society is difficult to imagine for most and even myself because it’s never been done successfully before. To be honest, I believe in authority to a certain extent, but it’s not from a authoritarian perspective. Justifiable authority simply means that which is true can and should be preserved and made into reality. It does not mean initiation of force to change people’s behaviors or beliefs, but make available for them the scientific knowledge of any issue. An anarchist society would have an authority in technology and technocratic power structures. It’s been said that even in anarchy, there will be organizations that appear to be authoritative and governing, however, these organizations are an inevitable part of people communicating and coming to agreements on certain issues. The difference in an anarchist society, this body would have absolutely no reason to interfere in the movements, speech, thoughts, or other behaviors of individuals. One vital component of anarchal society is the broad sweeping acceptance of the non-aggression principle. This though is probably not a good explaination for a 10 year old child.


For that I would point to Democide numbers and tell the child, all of these people were killed by government directly. Then I would answer the child with a question, “What would the world be like if these people didn’t have to be killed?”


The house of cards will never fall, there has and always will be a house of cards. Parts of it fall and crumble into the pages of history, however, the unique thing about humans is that we’re alive so we live and provide new alternatives that lead to expanded peace, long life, happiness, and growth. Who will be affected most by the current system crumbling as described? Those who depend on it most obviously, the bankers, the bailout riders, the lobbyist, the politicians, the police, and all the people who live on their knees in front of it all. While I realize the calamity that comes with this, I also recognize that through this failure of society will come a new society based on different principles all together. It is my hope that we make it through to the other side free from those who sought to steal our wealth, start wars with us, and dehumanize us into their control grid. If we cannot do this, we will end up in The Matrix I’m afraid.


Thanks again for inviting me to the show, this is just to give everyone a taste of things to come on Grown Up Stuff and Ampersand Daily (almost daily)…

Remember Wednesday February 13th @ 9:00 PM!!!!




Pinnaclism Part 3: Humanism & Transhumanism Summary



This post is to summarize my last two post on the subject. I wanted to focus on the positive aspects of both concepts, but also emphasize some of the clashes between the two ideologies. I honestly believe these differences will be settled peacefully and to the benefit of all. While this may sound way outside the box for many, I believe there are enough people out there who can see the technological singularity happening at some point, perhaps in my life time even. So even if you are not convinced of this now, I still feel like these ideas can benefit you because of the core principles that Pinnaclism itself brings with it. I will continue to write more about Pinnaclism. I just wanted to study this futurist dynamic under the scope of a philosophy I thought up on my own. If you find these ideas interesting, please let me know by commenting below or sending me a message. Enjoy!


Far removed from typical conversation with others, the ideas presented in today’s article are vast and complex in nature and I am not claiming a level of high proficiency in either are of research, I however do have questions, concerns, and inspiration to gain from both sets of ideas. I know there are passionate followers of both ideologies out there so while I respect your positions completely and even embrace some of them, I also want to offer any criticism that may help further both our understanding. The approaching singularity promises to bring about dramatic changes to the very existence of mankind in the universe, not just here on planet earth. Thinking about trans-humanism requires you to challenge many of your beliefs about reality and will even lead you to understanding some of the basic laws of nature in a brand new way.

Within thirty years, we will have the technological means to create superhuman intelligence. Shortly after, the human era will be ended.
—”The Coming Technological Singularity” by Vernor Vinge, 1993


If Vernor Vinge is correct, we are only 10 years from technological singularity. As humanist, do you have strict reservations to this idea? Trans-humanism after all is the relocating of the human mind and natural life force into a new genetic and technological chimera of humanity that takes on the form of humanity and rises into the cosmos. That’s what I think of when I think of trans-humanism.  That is, perhaps, just my desire to see humanity rise above it’s current problems and finally reach into the universe. A desire to see with my own eyes the universe that surrounds me and be able to understand larger portions of it in powerful and meaningful ways. Long have many of us dreamed of one day being able to orbit earth. Imagine yourself being able to live in an artificial body and being able to produce space craft and exploring what is not yet known about the universe. However, I feel it is only fair to bring up what I asked in the beginning of this paragraph. What would a humanist say about this ideology. What are their moral standards and where do they draw the line on any of these issues?

Personally, I take the idea with a grain of salt. While I do want to be able to do as described, I want to be sure that’s actually what we get when we hit the singularity. If it means giving birth to a tyrannical A.I. that’s soul purpose is to control us, then all I need to know is how trans-humanist are thinking along those lines. Will trans-humanist society be completely voluntary? If so, what does self defense look when considering the increased strength, speed, intelligence, and over all upgrade in mind and body? Will we have independent monitoring programs that you can volunteer to the public if you choose? Is there a way to hack around any privacy measures one may employ? Are we going to use metal framed human skeletons, or are we going to become genetic X-Men who can morph into whatever we please? It’s not the idea that we can do it that I have reservations on, in fact, I encourage anyone who wants to try to be the first trans-human to go for it. My reservations are reservations I believe will exist in even the most ardent of trans-humans will have to face as a real challenge once making the leap. I want them to be thinking about this now and hope that they are so that the project is successful and fully implemented.

Will aggression in human kind be eliminated by becoming a trans-human? Or will it only enrich it and foster it into a new realm of cruelty and despair for those less fortunate? Will the desire to be controlled be introduced into the population via upload? Perhaps it’s even more sinister and looks more like The Matrix film where humanity is farmed for energy and is kept in a comatose state connected to a central AI program that keeps them trapped inside a lie.  While I know many trans-humanist advocates may read this and feel that I am being paranoid, discouraging, or disparaging. I am asking them to stop for a moment and recognize the many problems humanity has proven it has over the years. While I know the past is the past, it does allow one to know and understand what humanity is capable of doing with a strictly humanist mind, body, and over all spirit. I am not discouraging the research into trans-humanism. What I am attempting to do is ask those in the community of trans-humanism to open up to the world about their plans so that we the people can ride right alongside the development of this technology so that we can learn what’s being done to help ensure the safety of this technology.

“Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead.” – Kurt Vonnegut 

My view of Humanism means you’ve already embraced the fact that you will die and that you are morally okay with this fact. To me, it means you will not hold others accountable for this fact and will treat them with the same respect you desire to be treated with. It means that you are more than happy to provide your best to the world and help improve the standard of living of all life around you, including trans-humans, who may be looked upon with harsh criticism. Being humanist in a trans-human world means you are the most free a human being could ever hope to be. Free from the injustices when ruled over by violence criminals who’s lust for power caused mass chaos and violence of the beginning of the singularity. Humanism is the wisdom in ensuring trans-humanist society is one based off non-aggression, peace, prosperity, and the well being of all life.  While there are dangers in any new technology, I believe humanity is capable of achieving this goal of technological singularity in peace. However, I do recognize there are significant challenges laying in wait before this comes to reality. Whatever the choice, I believe we will reach a pinnacle in society where peace, freedom, prosperity, and the well being of life is perfected.

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I am eager to hear feedback from others!

Scott D. Vogler

Pinnaclism: A Philosophy for Peace in a Brave New World.



Taking the vastly superior ideas from any given political or social movement and combining them under one umbrella of exceeding peace and harmony with the laws of nature. When those ideas compete with one another, choose the ideas which present the most solutions and extrapolate the errors from faulty ideas and incorporate them into the solution as well. Using technology, genetics, and other applied sciences we could be capable of a vastly different and superior set of rules. Enhanced to bring about peaceful and beneficial outcomes, the mere presence of a transhuman chimera alone would greatly increase the possibility of peace being the outcome of potentially violent situations. There are many ideas in the world and universe on how best to bring solution to any given situation.  Pinnaclism is a standard for accepting the input from all voices able to speak on the matter, however illogical, analyzing that information, and using it to greatly increase the possibility for a peaceful arrangement to be made.


The term extropy, coined by Tom Bell (T.O. Morrow) and defined by Max More in January 1988, as “the extent of a living or organizational system’s intelligence, functional order, vitality, energy, life, experience, and capacity and drive for improvement and growth.” Extropy expresses a metaphor, rather than serving as a technical term, and so is not simply the opposite of entropy, although it is also considered the appropriate antonym. The philosophy of Extropy, written by Max More, is the original philosophy of trans-humanism. (Source:)

With the use of genetics and cybernetics, we can greatly increase our output of solutions to various issues like violence, war, economic issues, political agenda’s, and the vastness that is everything else. This will lead to an acceleration of peaceful alternatives to nearly everything. The decision to disrupt this peace will have long since been solved by the time it occurs. While you are free to remain completely human and independent or whether you choose to merely be assisted by androids, or perhaps you go all the way and become a real trans-human the Pinnaclist ideology can be embraced by any self-aware entity so long as it is done voluntarily. Non-aggression plays a large role in creating a Pinnaclist lifestyle, you must learn to embrace the idea of patients, and to allow your pride to be an emotion that motivates you towards peace, not be replaced by spite and malice. While there is no strict enforcement of any rules, the idea is to allow yourself to volunteer your goodwill to the world and produce an outcome that benefits yourself and those around you.
This form of anarchism is the only solution to an authoritarian state where violence is deemed required to spread ideology. Pinnaclism seeks to listen to all positions and put them to the test on the market or public arena and adjusting to the reality of the situation. This requires a very active participation from individuals on a personal basis. Where problems exist, people must bring their ideas to the table, even if faulty, it will create a ground by which another can apply the benefit of hindsight and fill in the gaps. This process should repeat until ultimately the economic or social situation is solved to the satisfaction of those individuals involved. With increased computing power this process can be done as fast as the technology allows it to be produced. Implant this technology in a human chimera and allow it to thrive, one Transhuman could do the work of 10,000 men in just one day. In no way do I assert the numbers I’ve chosen to be scientifically legitimate, the point I hope to raise should be obvious.

Self defense under a Pinnaclist format would be a very powerful ability to ward off any attack whether natural or intended. The ability to eradicate negative and destructive consequences before they happen is much more powerful than blasting a thing into oblivion. While I believe it would be at first safe to rely on destructive power, eventually, non-lethal attack capabilities can decrease casualties and also enhance the ability of others to bring about much more positive and constructive consequences. I am not of mind to know exactly how this idea can be done in reality using technology and I would hate to try to speculate, however, I believe philosophy can help even the most ardent of scientist to be inspired enough to extrapolate an idea into a real working machine. The idea I’m trying to represent is that of pre-cognition. The ability to react to a situation either as fast as reality allows or making a breakthrough and gaining the ability to react to situations before they occur.

Try to imagine the possibilities and corrections you can make to my idea and run with it to the next person who works with you peacefully to create new realities, the idea is to allow this process to continue and grow into a new society based on real information and the accepting of new proposals in order to reach a peaceful end to all situations. I realize that what I am proposing is far from perfect but I see the realities sinking in more and more and feel I am interested enough in all of this rhetoric to make my comments publicly. I hope these ideas do not come off as completely far-fetched to those of you who are also enthusiastic about this technological frontier. I only hope that you can gain something useful from my thoughts and use them in a way that benefits not only yourself, but to all of those within your survey.
Eliminating that which hinders the ability of life to thrive, explore, learn, express, and participate in nature is the ultimate goal of Pinnaclism. It is not just one idea that makes all other’s irrelevant, rather an idea that expresses the desire to accept even more input from a virtually limitless sources. A Humanist being applies this by co-existing with trans-humans. The incentives to harmonize with each other will exist in that Humanist created Transhumanist to bring peace to the planet. Once rendered obsolete by machines, Humanist will enjoy exactly the same freedom as every other life form. They will live healthy lives and share their ideas with trans-humans who sometimes require input from beings less intelligent as illustrated when a human child teaches an adult something very profound and useful. Everything will be designed to increase the living standards for even those who choose to be homeless and totally dependent on the system. Even these individuals will be treated with utmost respect because it is beneficial for all life to live in nature in such a state of harmony. The Pinnaclist philosophy seeks to transcend pre-disposition and outward appearance. How to help life thrive in harmony is the question Pinnaclism seeks to answer.
Perhaps under this light, we can eventually find the root causes of aggressive authority in our world. In the interest of the survival of life on planet earth, dig and cut those roots once and for all, ridding ourselves of an evolutionary weakness. Pinnaclism is for anyone who should choose to accept the ideology, with the use of technology and armed with the truth, a single human being can bring about social and economic well-being for a significant amount of people without the use of violence and coercion. Humanity, whether humanist or trans-humanist, should in my view pour their interest into a Pinnaclist ideology because it embraces the ideas of all and every single entity which chooses to gain knowledge from it and express itself through it. Even violent rhetoric is encouraged because this will allow any number of other individuals to weigh in on the situation and combining their solutions into a near cure-all output of productivity and abundance that can provide all parties with permanent and peaceful solutions that work for the benefit of all life in the universe. This idea is about universality of peace and prosperity and understanding the balance of nature.

Thank you for reading and be sure to check back in, I will be posting more on this subject in a few days! 🙂
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